Frank Barillaro: Brad, a key focus of our strategy is investing in real assets. Food and agriculture allows you to invest in tangible things that you can touch and that you can feel and things that underpin valuation and a basis for your investment. Can you talk a bit more about the real asset strategy and the opportunities you see here in Australia over the next twelve to twenty-four months?
Brad Mytton: Yeah, certainly. So, some of the investments that we've already made significant a real asset base. So, I think about Flavorite, the largest class house operator in the country, StoneAxe wagyu is one of the largest full blood wagyu herds in the world now. I think about ProTen, our broader chicken business that you mentioned earlier, Pace Farm our tree nut platform, Lachlan River Almonds for example. All great examples of that real asset mindset, and our desire to own and operate those. The strategy really revolves around how do we take those operating real assets, and looking to pair those with the best management teams, in the country. So really finding the best asset paired with the best management teams and looking to bring some of that private equity approach to the food and culture sector.
So that's been the story historically and we'll continue into the future, when we start thinking about returns and how they sort of overlay with the strategy really looking to run those real assets for a standard return that might be a low team style return, just running those target assets we think there's operational value add, be that through, acquisitions that are creating multiples or development activities in relation to greenfield brownfield expansion and the like. That gets us up into the sort of high teens returns with relative consistency. And then really looking for buying well, selling well. Those other multiple arbitrage, bit of debt, these types of things to really put us into the twenty sort of returns, which lines up with how we've been performing historically.
Frank Barillaro: You spoke about having real assets underpinning like a good, twelve to fifteen percent type of IRR and implementing value add
through operational improvements. But how do you see things like balance sheet optimization, acquisition opportunities, to really drive alpha in the investment portfolio above that sort of ten to fifteen percent that's underpinned by the real asset strategy?
Brad Mytton: Yeah, I think that's where the private equity industry's done a wonderful job at optimizing and really extracting as much as they can over these types of companies. And bringing some of those learnings from that sector, it's been a big part of some of our value add as well. So, we've seen examples in our existing portfolio, sell and lease back in certain circumstances, looking for acquisitions that are at accretive multiples. So those types of things are something we can do obviously have wonderful relationships with some of the leading banks in the sector as well. So, very good ability to kind of work with those banking partners as well for the benefit of our portfolio.
